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facebook.com/alivelshi. thanks for joining the conversation this week on your money, we're here every saturday at 1:00 p.m. eastern and sunday at 3:00 p.m. have a great weekend. hello, everyone, i'm fredericka whitfield, you hear plenty of noise and lots of sn on the campaign trail, for the next hour, cnn will help you fixture out where the candidates stand on them, we'll size up the issue, issue by issue and how barack obama and mitt romney plan to tackle these key american challenges. before we get to that, here's a look at some of the top stories making news today. a desperate search for two tennessee children today, their home burned down a week ago but police say still no trace of the
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children. suzannesan candiotti is joining. >> reporter: at this hour, state investigators are using teams of people using dogs to search a wider area of the woods on both sides of the road around the house that was insin rated. with absolutely no physical evidence that the children were home when their grand charparen died in that fire, investigators are doing all they can to find those children. investigator have found no sign of 9-year-old chloe and 7-year-old gauge daniel. no signing the youngsters were there and so far no evidence they weren't when an inferno swept through the home where they lived with their grandparents. friends an family don't understand and neither does anyone else. >> i think something's very fishy. >> the more you find out the
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more questions you have. >> reporter: helicopters equipped with infrared cameras found no sign of the children. the children were last seen playing in the neighborhood before the fire started last sunday night. did someone take them? the missing children -- authorities don't know what caused the fire, adding to the mystery. >> they said that it was not an intentional fire. but obviously there's more to it than that. >> chloe's parents are not considered suspect according to police. >> we are tired, but we want this to continue on until we find out what's really happened to these children. >> and of course, that's what everyone wants to know, fred, what could have happened to these children? >> and whaf the relationship between the parents, the grandparents? were they all living in the same house? >> we don't know everything about it, but authorities did tell us that apparently this was
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an arrangement that had been going on for some time. we're also told that the mother and father of these children, although they weren't living together, they have had some legal troubles in the past, but they are not considered suspects, and all members of the family are cooperating, police tell us. >> and any other steps in this investigation, in the search? >> they're simply trying to falk to as many people as they to find out, where these children were, what they were doing, when is the last time they were seen and it was about three hours before this fire start and the children were playing outside in the neighborhood. so what happened to them next? that's what they need to find out. >> all right, very mysterious, thanks so much. now to the presidential candidates and their first face to face debate. it happens wednesday night in denver, president obama is preparing for the showdown a in nevada, he landed in las vegas just a few minutes ago for a rally tonight. and mitt romney holds a rally
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tomorrow and prepares for the debate there as well. so the focus for this first debate will be domestic policy. and jim lara of pbs will be the moderator, the vice presidential debate is the following week, october 11 in kentucky. martha radditz is the moderator. both domestic and international issues will be discussed. and obama and romney face off again in hempstead, new york. and the final debate will be strictly on foreign policy. that's october 22nd in florida. bob schieffer of cbs is the moderator. be sure to catch this first debate life here on cnn. 37 days from election day and new allegations of voter registration fraud, the complaints center around registration drives in florida,
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nevada, north carolina and colorado. they were performed by a consulting political consulting company hired by the republican national committee called strategic allied consulting. in colorado, a woman who may have worked for the company was videotaped trying to register only mitt romney supporters, take a look. >> yeah, hi. >> do you volt for romneyor obama? >> i thought you were registering voters a minute ago. >> i am. >> and who are you registering? >> all voters. >> i'm actually trying to register people for a particular party because we're out here in support of romney actually. >> and who's paying you for this? >> let me see, we're working for the county clerk's office. >> you cannot come out here and register one party, lady, are you working for the county clerk's office, i got it all on
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tape. you're working for the county clerk's office? >> i believe so, yes. >> and you're only registering republicans? >> no. >> a top official of the el paso county republican party in colorado says the woman trying to register voters actually worked for strategic allied consulting, not the county clerk's office. cnn has not confirmed that. the el paso county clerk issued a sharp response saying this, quote, the young lady in this video is not an employee, the statement made in this video is both unfortunate and inaccurate, my office does not and will not engage in partisan voter registration, end quote. and based on what has happened in florida in particular, the rnc has fired that private firm, shaun spicer communications director for the republican national committee says ensuring
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integrity of elections is a high priority and we have zero tolerance or allegations of improprie impropriety, end quote. voters have paid strategic allied consulting at least $3 million in recent months for voter registrations and get out the vote efforts. the u.s. supreme court heads back to work tomorrow morning. one of the first big issues it could tackle, voter id laws ahead of the november election. an affirmative action case involving the united states of texas t justices took some time this morning to register red mass. it is the mass that has been celebrated before the beginning of a new session since 1953. police in winter springs, florida are investigating a deadly shooting this morning outside a veteran's of foreign wars lodge. a group of bikers was getting
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screeching halt. >> cnn's candy crowley host of -- second presidential debate october 16, so candy you see and examine the culture, division in washington all the time. is there something particularly disturbing about how we got here? >> there's so many different reasons as to how we got to this place, that claire is a partisan divide, so stark that it is difficult to get things done on capitol hill, i can assure you as you heard on that last sound bite of the documentary, there are a lot of things that folks wanted to get done that should haven't been done, but when they can't get budgets together, when it's always at the 11th hour and 59 minutes before they can come to an agreement and then it's only for three months, there certainly is a lot of that going on, and it is to blame, but it
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is as bad as i've seen it since i began covering congress in washington. >> do you feel like -- many people in the documentary express that there's very little hope for change that barely getting anything done or not getting anything done has become permanent. >> i don't think anything's permanent in the american political system and i think history kind of shows us that, but do i think i can see it lasting for a while? yes, but the hope here is first of all when congress absolutely, positively has to get it done, they do it and it isn't pretty, and they yell at each other a lot, but they're like reporters, they expand to the amount of time they want. when the deadline is coming up, you think they're running out of time and then they pass it. so they will get it done, but when it comes to other things, there's so much that has gone wrong and honestly, a lot of
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people ask me this question and i have to tell you that while we look at congress and say what's wrong with those people, in part, let us remember that those are the people that americans are voting for. and what's happened? people have been redistricted to the point where there are very red places and very blue places, very republican and very democratic and a lot of these swing congress people, northeast republicans, southern democrats, the blue dogs, their numbers have diminisheded over time because when we have swing elections, the first ones to go are the very people, and that would be northeast republicans, and southern democrats, conservative democrats, they're the first to go, so the people that have the most impetus to see compromise are gradually being voted out of congress. the fault often lies here. it is as well a voter decision. to send this particular set of
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congressmen and nators to war washington. >> let's look ahead to wednesday's presidential debate, kwongmen are practicing leading up to it. who faces the greatest pressure to really nail it? >> mitt romney. since the democratic convention is that the bounce that the president got seems to have some staying power. let us talk about again the debate, but mitt romney, the guy behind needs to have a really good debate. now the president does too. but he can coast, he can have a good debate. mitt romney has to have a great debate. >> candy crowley, state of the union, and we look forward to this week's presidential debate and we look forward to the one you'll be moderating mid-october. >> don't forget you do have a front row seat the upcoming
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debate between president obama and governor mitt romn. dvr sanjay gupta looking at the health care plan of president obama and mitt romney. >> reporter: since president obama's health care law was enacted 3.1 million penal under the age of 26 are now covered under their parents plan. seniors in particular have benefitted on prescription drugs. >> seniors who fall in the coverage gap known as the doughnut hole will start getting some help. they'll receive $250 to help pay for prescriptions and that will in time fill in the doughnut hole. >> reporter: 5.5 million seasons have saved $4.5 billion prescription drugs since the law
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was enacted. >> i have strengthened medicare, we have added years to the life of medicare, we did it business getting rid of taxpayer subsidies to insurance companies that weren't making people healthy. >> reporter: by 2017, the law requires everyone to have health insurance, whether they purchase it themselves or through employers and insurance companies can't deny you if you have a pre-exiexisting conditio. >> but the supreme court ruled in june that it was up to each state to decide whether to expand coverage. the law has become a corner stone of the obama campaign. >> i refuse to eliminate health insurance for millions of americans who are poor and elderly or disabled, also those with the most can pay less. >> but romney says the affordable care act is unaffordable. >> we know that health care is too expensive, obama care
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doesn't make it less expensive. >> romney and his running mate paul ryan propose to cap malpractice insurance, cut medicate by $810 million over the next ten years, give states more control over your head indicate funds, overall medicare, the overall? people now under than 55, when they reach retirement, they can have a voucher to purchase private insurance. >> this is to guarantee that seniors can always afford medicare coverage no exceptio. s >> romney doesn't want to take out all of the law's provisions. >> we have to make sure that people who have prekpigsing conditions are able to get insured and folks that get sick don't get dropped by their insurance company. >> douglas iken who is the
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president of the insurance -- >> both sides agree that the mountainous medicare needs to be capped, they just don't agree how to get there. what romney and ryan say they're going to give the money to seniors so they can shop and if they don't like the choice, they can go to another choice and that will meet the cap. >> jonathan supports the law and writes about health care for the me republi lirepublic. >> bakbaum we're not going to sk face benefits, no matter what happens, we will make sure that seniors get the same level of benefits they're getting now. >> both obama and romney agree that health care needs to be more affordable. they just disagree about how to do that. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn reporting. >> the may -- he'll tell us how that experience changed him.
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. mayor what got you to give it a try to see if you could survive on food stamps? >> first of course is that we are living through the brutal economy, too many people that i lead, the sixth largest city in america are living through these incredibly difficult time. so when the arizona community action association issued a challenge to me to live off of food stamps to get a better sense of what people were going through, i couldn't say no to try to be a better leader and policymaker.
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>> so you with respect at all reluctant, what did you discover in your first shot at seeing what you could buy and what you couldn't buy with the food stamp. >> $29 for an entire week of eating doesn't go far, and i had to live off of a lot of stuff that i usedo eat when i was a college kid when i didn't have much of a budget. i had to skip a few meals in order to make the budget work. i ended up losing a few pounds which is not what the program is supposed to do. so i learned a lot and i think it will make me a better policymaker. >> what would you take from that experience, you said makes you a better policymaker, can you think of something off the bad where you are now kind of wanting to redress or tackle as a result of that experience knowing what so many people have to go through by living with so little? >> well, there's too often
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stereotyping that go on for the vast majority of food stamps. the people that live on food stamps, they don't want to be doing that. these are people that need to be supported during these times and when the economy comes roaring back, i believe that they they're going to be a big part of the future of our economy, so number one, don't present negative stereotypes. number two, there are a lot of kids, a lot of families with children that are going through these difficult time and need our help so i'm telling people. > -if you want to do what i did, go ahead and donate to the local food stamps. >> you said this might potentially shape you in the way you shape policy. what kind of policy? >> we have to support people
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that are going through these incredibly tough times. as a city of phoenix, we're getting out there and finding out number one the number of people that are going through this and all we can do to promote those entities, specifically make sure the community knows they need supported and they need our help. hopefully raise awareness of what people go through. look, it was only week for me, it's not that big of a deal they went through it. i could stand to have dropped a few pounds anyway. but the whole point was to raise awareness of an issue that a lot of people in our community are going through. >> greg stanton, thanks so much for your time. the first presidential debate just three days away on wednesday, we'll take a hard look at the possible challenges each candidate could face as they go head to head for the first time.
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leading up to the big night. president barack obama and mitt romney are in full political mode. so i talked with candy earlier and she believes the pressure is on romney to nail this first debate. if you agree with that, does that mean that he's got to try really hard to answer every question in detail or carefully avoid certain issues or topics that might be pitfalls for him? >> i agree with that, mitt romney is behindnd and even if he wasn't behind, the president won in 2008 if he can hold his voters from 2008, he can win. romney is the one that has to dislodge voters from the president. i look at the polling in this case, it does turn the expectations on its head in one respect. the challenge is not so much to make a case for president obama, as it is to make a case for
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himself. it has been able to --. he will do better over the next four years, in particular, he is suffering from -- that he does not relate to or really care about the lives of average working people, i think that is much more of a challenge for him, he didn't really do it as much as he needed to at the convention, that i think is job number one, more than making a case against the president. >> when you talk about making a case for himself, for romney, it would seem like health care might be a hallmark in which to do so, he talks about bringing universal health care, but on the other hand revealing all or parts of the president's plan, he's really kind of between on what to do about health care, does he tout it? it was an accomplishment for him or does he downplay it because he wants to criticize the
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president? >> health care reform, which, you know, structurally is very similar to what president obama passed at the national level, was romney's hallmark achievement in massachusetts? it was something he could not embrace in the republican primary. that were really kind of splitting hairs. and now, in the general election, he he is kind of sending mixed signals, at times he has embraced certain aspects or goals, or overall, but regardless of the messaging or the signaling, mitt romney has pledged to repeal president obama's health care reform, that policy decision really overrides any positioning. it does ensure there's a stark contrast on the issue. >> does this end up giving the president kind of the upper hand even though he too is on the defensive as it relates to health care? >> the president is clearly in the lead, but still in a
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somewhat precarious position. he is defying gravity. he still has at least 2/3 of the country saying we're on the wrong track, usually that's a very difficult environment for the incumbent to get elected. and for the president, voters are not convinced they wanted to go the romney's direction, but extending where we are for the next four years is not an attractive process. he's got to walk that tight rope by saying we are moving in the right direction. and also kind of give people a sense of the next four years that are going to be better in their arrives than the previous four have been. >> sometimes we look ahead and see that yes, what these candidates say is going to be important and pivotal what their body language has said. who can forget the gore-bush debate, and you have to wonder
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betwn these two candidates, romney and obama, who's likely to win, who's likely to be too breathy, or maybe be an easy read just by finally expressions that could potentially hurt their performance? >> first of all, debates have -- there's no subsequent record of whether debates have been significant or not. certainly in 1980, to some extent in 1992. if you have looked at the debates from 1996, they haveat times and at times they haven't. what matters is not always the lines of arguments between the candidates but the general impression that they lead. and again, i think this is more important than the president at this point. romney simply has not convinceded an important slice of voters who are not overwhelmed with obama's first term that he would do better in a second. ultimately he has to make it more comfortable with him. that's job one. >> thanks so much, we'll be
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listening to your insight throughout -- folks don't forget it. this programming note, the first presidential debate starting this wednesday night, just three days away, you can watch it live right here on cnn, and of course with cnn.com as well. our gun control, it can be a critical issue for some voters, but the presidential candidates may not be so far apart on that, another 2012 issue right after this. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know.
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major issues during the campaign. gun control is always a hot button issue. cnn's zeb are far rick explains where each stands. >> when it comes to gun control, those on both sides of the debate see it two ways. they see it as a threat to all law abiding -- potentially prevent tragedies like the summer's colorado movie theater massacre and the wisconsin temple shooting. so where do the candidates stand? when it comes to the second amendment, both challenger mitt romney and obama say, yeah, they support it. >> i believe in the second amendment. i believe in people's lawful right to bear arms. >> i will protect the second amendment's right to the american people. >> i will not take your shotgun
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away. i will not take your rifle away. i won't take your handgun away. >> the fact he hasn't even tried doesn't placate the nra, which continued unsubstantiated warning back in 2008. >> all that lip service to gun owners is just part of a massive obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the second amendment during his second term. >> romney has been actively cultivating the nra. it's a switch for the once tough on guns governor. consider assault weapons ban. in 2004, glove for romney signed a permanent assault weapons ban in massachusetts. now candidate romney says he opposes any new laws. >> we need a president who will
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enforce current laws not create new ones that only serve to -- mr. obama stressed the need for a ban on assault weapons. so that's a yes. >> a lot of gun owners would agree that ak-47s belong in the hands of soldiers not in the hands of criminals. >> reporter: the reason obama's yes has an asterisk -- under obama's watch, concealed weapons are now allowed on amtrak trains and in national parks. >> he's continued to pay lip service to those things but he hasn't shown real leadership in pursuing those changes. >> yes, background checks have gotten more thorough under president obama. but the big problem remains gun shows and internet. specifically unlicensed dealers selling firearms to buyers with no background check needed. president obama has supported closing the gun show loophole in the past. but the white house says his
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focus now is on existing laws. governor romney says no to any further regulation of gun shows. >> there's no particular change in law whothat's going to keep people who are going to do harm to do harm. >> we should do anything and everything to keep criminals from purchasing weapons. >> reporter: so obama says he wants tougher gun laws, little was done during his first term. republican governor romney has said he's done more in the past. . we're looking at some of the key issues that could decide the presidential election, one of the issues, what to do about the estimated 10 million illegal immigrants living in this country. we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected,
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we're looking at some soft key issues that could affect the presidential aial elections. >> under president obama, the united states has deported a record number of undocumented immigrants, mostly the result of targeting criminals for removal. but this summer, the president ordered a moratorium on deportations for young undocumented immigrants and an opportunity for temporary legal status and work permits. >> now, let's be clear, this is not amnesty, this is not immunity. this is not a path to citizenship. it's not a permanent fix. >> milt romney favors enforcing existing immigration laws which he said would keep undocumented immigrants from getting jobs here and would ultimately force them to in effect deport themselves. >> i'm not in favor of a massive
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deportation effort, rounding up 12 million people and taking them out of the country, i believe people make their own choices as to whether they want to go home and that's what i mean by self-deportation. >> obama supports the dream act which would open a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that were brought to the united states as children. >> i have said to congress, bring me the dream act and put it on my desk and i will sign it. >> i have been asked if congress -- ininterstate tuition secrets or other special benefits i find to be contrary to the idea of a nation of laws. >> obama's justice department empowering police to check the immigration stat stus of people they suspect may be in the country illegally. >> i don't approve of the add add law. i think -- arizona law. i think it's the wrong approach.
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>> romney says arizona's law attacked by critics who say it's encouraged racial profiles. >> i support the arizona law. >> in the election and immigration battleground state of arizona, opinions are sharply divided. >> hopefully romney doesn't win and doesn't take away the deport action. because that is a fear. what i don't like is that he doesn't offer a solution, he just shuts down ideas. >> president obama wants to talk about what do we do with these ten to 10 million people. a lot of americans including myself say before we have that discussion, let's secure the border. >> both candidates say they'll work on that. casey wian, cnn, los angeles. it's an issue that impacts neighbors all across the country, we're talking about illegal drugs. so why aren't the men who want to be president talking about it? [ male announcer ] let's say you need to take care of legal matters.
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illegal drugs and drug abuse are destroying american families. so why aren't the candidates talking more about it. >> a fishing trawler tries to outrun a coast guard cutter. the crew of the cutter fires it's 50 caliber machine-gun. >> that's smoke, that's smoke. all right! >> disabling the troller. on board, 20 tons of marijuana, this was the 1980s, the drug war was at its height. then vice president george bush headed up a task force to fight the problem. >> we have got to do better in interdicting it. >> in miami, cocaine is found hidden in commercial gets, flowers, even boxes of yams t problem is, some are not yams at all, instead plaster casts shaped like yams, instead pure coke. stash houses and drug clabs are
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routinely raid it. the white house doesn't even call it a war any longer, focusing more on prevention. and in this political season, the issue of illicit drugs rarely gets a mention on the campaign trail. >> when it does come up, president obama and milt romney appear to be on the same page. >> the president of the united states must make a priority of helping reduce demangd in this country. >> if anyone could show, it's this judge. the idea, you get clean, you avoid a criminal record. >> you've done perfect throughout the entire program, with no violation of probation. >> drug according tos ought to be a priority among the candidates because they reduce drug dependency and save
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taxpayers millions. a study showed that pilot's court saved the county over $30 million a year over a five year period. >> if we can keep them out of the criminal justice system at this level, then we will save billions and billions in prison costs. >> for the white house, it's a multilay youred approach, focus on probation, not just a criminal justice concern. 6 law enforcement conditions choking off the supply. this year, the federal government is spending just over 10 billion on prevent and treatment. law enforcement and corrections, just under 10. mitt romney has not outlined how he will allocate federal dollars, but both men say they have not in favor of legalizing marijuana and are emphatic that
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working closely with mexico which has used florida as a favorite drug route is a mu. pilot says she would like more -- job lost in tough economic times. >> we live in a society of aggravate i aggravati aggravating stress. >> ironically, the most talked about campaign issue leading to one of the least. john zarrella, cnn, miami. when barack obama was elected in 2008, he was called the facebook president. in 2012, everyone's using social media, we'll look at how social media might make the difference come election day. ♪
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uhhh. (cries) a machine can't give you what a person can. that's why ally has knowledgeable people there for you, night and day. ally bank. your money needs an ally. we're taking a look at the big issues this election and if you want to know what the candidates are promising to do. we actually have some tools for you to use. >> it's easy to hear the claims and the counterclaims. what i want all you to have are the facts. not just what they say they will achieve, but what their records are. this is called cnn.com/election, very easy to remember, and when you get there, it gives you all sorts of information about what's going on in this election.
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all the features we have here is a section on issues. you can click on whatever issue is important to you, whether it's health care, immigration, foreign policy. i just want to show you the kinds of things you can learn about. but for example for the environment, you can see highway president obama refers to the policy being an all of the above policy. he also said there's been 5 million green jobs there,'s an estimate of about 3.1 million. milt romney pushes for more green drilling. we also have back on my screen here, a rundown of nine different hot points, flash points on which people disagree on energy. so if you go to cnn.com/election. everything i just showed you,